Imsensible wrote:Are you trying to say that knowing about counter-steering is cure to avoiding the consequences of unexpected events? More likely the cause of any ensuing accident is something else... lack of observation, anticipation, excess speed etc.
It's just a term, a buzz word, and some people feel the need to tell others about it, despite the fact they already do it. You don't have to know how something works to use it. Those that can't steer properly have a more fundamental problem. Explaining counter-steering isn't likely to get rid of those problems. An hour riding around a car park will teach anybody all they need to know about counter-steering.
1. It's not a buzz word or term, it's a description. What riders actually do is 'steer'. The addition if 'counter' highlights the counter intuitive manner in wwhich it works.
2. All riders achieve steering. However, many riders don't know how they do that. For some riders that may never be a problem.
3. Yes, you're right, it may be a 'fix' to get someone out of trouble. Perhaps you think it would be better *not* to be able to get out of trouble? In the same vein, perhaps emergency stops shouldn't be taught? AAMOI, in the DSA post-test bike video, the suggested 'solution' for running wide in a bend is 'go slower next time'. That assumes that the rider survives.
4. An hour in car park won't achieve that. Proof? Well, for starters, every CBT student does that time, but I don't expect many would identify the action of counter-steering for themselves. Also, learning from experience requires awarenes of actions and experimentation. You may have meant that, but I'd suggest that not 'anybody' can or would do that undirected.
I don't know you, your experience and background. But I really can't understand why you seem to be so rabidly against teaching conscious use of counter steering. Actually, it suggests to me that you don't understand it yourself.
As a contrast, I use to instruct with the US organisation MSF. They have what they call the four key skills for riding: starting, stopping, shufting and turning. 'Turning' means conscious use of c-s - and that's for novice riders. But different to our CBT where it's not in the syllabus.